You would never guess he was a 19 year old at AA, when he gave some of those interviews. TBC PREMIUM. I thought Liberatore, was just about a sure fire top 8 pick, falling at the LATEST to the Braves, and I can’t believe the Rays ended up getting him with what could be the steal of the 1st round.. That would be awesome, but I think this guy has a better chance of becoming Wade Leblanc 2.0. Cuz apparently the Rays are so much better? In your logic, those player can’t low ball it even if they got pick low. Ryan Weathers stands with his parents Kelli and David after he was named the 2017-2018 Gatorade National Baseball Player of the Year at a surprise ceremony at Loretto High School on May 31. All the relevant draft publications had Liberatore and Stewart ahead of Weathers. I take back my earlier comments forsure, but just got to trust the process as a fan of the game.. Yeah they updated the article and posted the dollar amount. No. People acting like Preller and maybe more importantly Logan White shouldn’t get the benefit of the doubt crack me up. So, it looks like by drafting Liberatore instead of Weathers, not only could the Padres possibly saved a few thousand dollars, they would have also gotten the pitcher with a much higher ceiling.. Why you gotta leave out Margevicius? You’re forgetting the Padres gave up James Shields (trash) for a number the #4 prospect in all of baseball. Players aren’t suddenly going to accept less money because they got drafted lower and even if they did, Liberatore would have still been cheaper than Weathers. That's precisely the assigned slot value of the No. Wtf is Preller doing!? June 28, 2020: San Diego Padres invited non-roster LHP Ryan Weathers to spring training. With the picks the Padres made, they should be able to get it done. We signed our guy and now we have a gaggle of good LH pitching prospects. Lol bro, they didn’t say what his pay was until after my comment was posted. 1 Gonzaga (3-0) did not play. Thursday No. In his first at-bat against Ryan Weathers, he chased a fastball up and out of the zone while striking out, then against lesser talent later in the game slashed a stand up triple to the gap. We’ll all know for sure in a few days how much Weathers signing for full slot ended up affecting the Padres total draft. Nice try bro but not a single scout had this guy ahead of Liberatore. The Padres already boast the top left-handed pitching prospect in the game. * The Cubs refused to pay the bonus, citing a pre-existing injury was not disclosed. Organizations. Nearly every team who picks in the first round pretty much knows they can absolutely sign the guy otherwise they don’t take him. If I had to guess, I would have thought his answers were more like that of a 10 year veteran pitcher.. Soroka has climbed the ladder successfully not by throwing 97 MPH, with a huge curve..He’s done it by mixing speeds on his pitches, throwing 92, and knowing when to rare back to hit 95, knowing when to throw his curve harder, with more break, and knowing when to take advantage of aggressive opponents ..He has done it by being unpredictable in hitter’s counts, by studying film, by commanding his pitches well, and the main overall reason he has been so successful is just his mental makeup and incredible maturity on and off the mound. Join Facebook to connect with Ryan Weathers and others you may know. I think you’d have to ask yourself which is better: the duo of Weathers and Edwards or Liberatore?? New, 9 comments. 21 Oregon looks to rebound against winless California, No. SDN  ID Numbers. ... both are committed to Vanderbilt University and could opt to attend school rather than turn pro now that a first-round signing bonus is off the table. Also sign up for our community newspaper newsletters, and CaregiverSD. The son of longtime big leaguer David Weathers, Ryan totaled 18.1 innings between rookie ball and Low-A after being drafted. I can’t help you with Liberatore or Singer, but Murray was ranked #36 because of sign-ability questions (football). Padres first-rounder Ryan Weathers is his father’s son. They run an f’ing opinionated website. The only positives I see in Weathers are his pedigree, his mature mound presence, and the fact he’s a high school kid that already has control and command of three to four pitches.. Weathers’ change-up, coupled with his fastball command, could allow his “stuff” to play up as he climbs the MiL ranks.. And just about every report also said that Weathers would be a cheap sign and he wasn’t. 2:39. 7,406 Followers, 1,367 Following, 36 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from Ryan Weathers (@ryanweathers25) who really knows? If you’re ranked low but ger drafter higher than expected, then you must give the team that drafter you a good discount. Weathers is well-known for his overall athleticism, having led his high school to their first-ever state championship in basketball prior to pitching for them this spring. Like if you’re drafted in the top 10 and you try to play hardball more often then not you end up like Aiken/Whitson. So basically you are saying g that Preller is right and all those other scouts were wrong. Bonuses posted anonymously by Ryan, LLC employees. That’s only $160 short of their aforementioned ceiling. You’re acting like I said he would’ve taken $3.5M even if he was picked at 7 instead of 16, which isn’t even close to what I actually said. I’m pretty sure he only signed for 3.5 mil. Service Time. Already looking forward to the 2021 NFL Draft? MLB.com notes that Weathers does a good job of repeating his delivery; as such, many evaluators believe he could develop future plus command, albeit with pitches that largely grade as average or slightly above for the time being. Nope because Weathers got a bigger signing bonus than Liberatore. High school players in particular have tons of leverage and can kinda pick where they want to go. Definitely a riskier signing now that I see the dollar amount. Bonus. All of them. MLB Draft 2018: Get to know potential first round draft pick Ryan Weathers. I mean, I’m obviously not a professional scout, nor did I sleep anywhere that makes it okay for me to pretend to be one..lol..So, really only time will tell the tale, but Weathers could suprise some folks.. For a prospect that doesn’t have excellent stuff, or an electric arm; in order to be successful, he better have a mature approach, mix his pitches well, and have some excellent command..Which, again, those are all boxes that Weathers checks off.. Alot of “prospect analysts” said Mike Soroka wouldn’t be as good as his draft peers for alot of the same reasons..Soroka was seen as a high floor, high school pitcher coming from Canada, but how high is his ceiling now?? MLB.comâs Jim Callis first reported Weathersâ signing bonus, which will keep him from his college commitment to Vanderbilt. You do realize that the Padres traded Truner when he was a #95 prospect, right? In that case, Kyler Murray wouldn’t have had a signing bonus of $4.7 million (picked 9th overall ranked #36), Grayson Ridriguez wouldn’t have had a signing bonus of $4.3 (picked 11th overall ranked #22), Jordyn Adams wouldn’t have had a signing bonus of $4.1 (Picked 17 ranked #37). AJ Cassavell of MLB.com was first to tweet news of the signing; Jim Callis of MLB.com reports that he’ll receive the full slot amount of $5,226.500 as his signing bonus. If that was it I’m pretty sure the Rays would have been one of the teams he didn’t want to play for. Lorettoâs Ryan Weathers pitches against Lawrence County during a game earlier this year at Vanderbilt. 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He was later drafted by the Rays, another team amidst a rebuild who could have gotten away with taking a high risk/reward type of guy. The left-handed Gore (No. Padres get rookie of the year for top #95 and unknown prospect vs James Shields and cash considerations for unknown prospect. “Why would he sign for below-slot? I was surprised the Padres went with Weathers when they could have picked other pitchers with higher ceilings, especially because of the fact that they are still rebuilding and Preller loves high-ceiling guys. So no, it’s not my logic, its facts. Pick #16 got payed $100,000 less than expected. Padres pitcher Chris Paddack on start vs. Mariners and possibility of making rotation, Catching up with Padres reliever Craig Stammen, Three things that stood out from Machado's first day with the Padres, Padres manager Andy Green on Machado joining his roster, firstname.lastname@example.org; Twitter: @sdutSanders. By Dennis Lin Jul 2, 2018 9. The Padres ended up punting their 8-10 round picks to save money, but still have 10 unsigned draftees from rounds 12-20 that may end up going unsigned without any savings from Weathers. Ryan Weathers is on Facebook. Literally no one had Weathers ahead of Stewart, Singer or Liberatore. Lefty Ryan Rolison was a draft0eligible sophomore out of Ole Miss. Ryan Weathers: 2017-2018 Gatorade National Baseball Player of the Year - Duration: 2:39. He signed with the Padres on July 1, 2018, receiving a $5,226,500 signing bonus. If Liberatore was drafted earlier, he probably would’ve signed for the same amount as Weathers or slightly less. Who knows……but what I do know is “we” don’t know. The Padres have signed left-hander Ryan Weathers, the number seven overall pick in this year’s amateur draft. Maybe that Jimmertree guy can come in and give us his personal breakdown of Weathers compared to his draft peers. Maybe in talking to friends,coaches etc something came up that made so many teams pass on him? I liked Liberatore’s pitching mix more, higher ceiling it seemed, but who knows, Weathers may surprise us. Takes Weathers over the much better Liberatore because he’ll supposedly be cheaper and yet Weathers gets a bigger signing bonus!? And if I’m a player I’d demand more money if I were drafted lower. That way we can have a “real scout’s” take on the issue. some here seem to think Liberatore is a slam dunk all star. What scout? Weathers, out of Loretto High School in Tennessee, pairs his low-90s fastball with two strong off-speed offerings -- a changeup and a curve. If you need me to dumb it down for you, what I’m saying is that if he was willing to take $3.5M instead of $3.6M at pick 16 (full slot amount), he probably wouldn’t have signed for over $5.2M (full slot amount) at pick 7, unless he REALLY didn’t want to play for the Padres. Gore, Lucchesi, Weathers, Morejon, Lauer/Allen. Weathers is a power pitcher with finesse, thanks to his ability to locate the ball well. The younger Weathers gives a lot of credit for his development to his dad. Weathers mixes his three pitches well, with a deceptive fastball that sits at 90-93 mph, a deep, upper-70s curveball and an advanced changeup. He will report to the Padresâ spring training complex in Peoria, Ariz., for the start of his professional career shortly after Mondayâs introductory press conference. Could Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens make a move in Cooperstown voting? What that is, I have no clue. Bond fire rapidly jumps through Orange County canyons, forcing more evacuations. Though the Loretto (Tennessee) High School product was a consensus first-round talent according to MLB.com, Baseball America and Fangraphs, all three of those publications ranked him outside of their top ten draft prospects; MLB.com in particular cited his lack of a “true out pitch” as reason to doubt he’d be taken so high in the draft. Do you know anything “personally” about Liberatores’ make up? Its clear he wants to sport a 5 man lefty rotation! But you gave hindsight scouting to Tatis and said “but he was only ranked #95 at the time” with Turner. Weathers ended up getting the full slot value -- $5.23 million. And even if your logic were true, Liberatore would still have been cheaper than Weathers cuz he signed for below slot while Weathers signed for slot. Signing Scouts. That could be why he dropped. Gatorade POY 26,997 views. Who said they were going to sign him for under slot? By Kyle Downing | July 1, 2018 at 6:30pm CDT. Of course, in practice only one team needs to like Weathers better than Liberatore to draft him higher and with baseball’s draft talent is never the only consideration to when a player will be chosen. Why are you singling out Preller? Would have preferred Stewart over Weathers as well. You people need to remember rarely do the best talents go in order of their talent. It doesn’t matter where you’re projected. Why would he sign for below-slot? And, as a Braves’ fan, Soroka is also now my favorite pitcher in their rotation..Reading his interviews are AWESOME!! “The better pitcher”? Being such a boringly lame putz on a sports blog does not make you sound more intelligent.. To everyone who’s complaining on why the Padres didn’t pick Liberatore, there must be a good reason. Don’t you know that us fans who have probably never watched 90% of the first rounders know more than the professional scouts? Please login to leave a reply. Signing bonuses for those picks are valued at about $5.2 million and … I take back my statement from earlier, but still Weathers was a decent pickup imo from all the scouting videos and articles I saw. Considered one of the top prospects for the 2018 Major League Baseball draft, he was drafted 7th overall by the San Diego Padres. Name one? Buddy it’s not just us. He had all the leverage. Liberatore was drafter 16th overall for a reason. No. To date, the Padres have signed 26 of their 41 draftees, including their first 12 selections, ahead of the July 6 deadline. Many speculated that the Padres felt comfortable they could get him to sign at a discount there which would have allowed them to go after some other talented players who fell in later rounds. MLB Debut. Preller has a better track record than them in the scouting dept. In Peoria, Ornelas’s performance was very much like what the Padres have seen thus far, full of mixed results. 2018 Amateur Draft 2018 Amateur Draft Signings San Diego Padres. I still can’t understand why teams passed on those players, but many of them did, so there must be a good reason. Correct, and even though neither of us are professional scouts…Last I checked the professional scouts ranked both Liberatore and Stewart higher than Weathers.. No one is making claims of anyone being an all-star, we are just saying which guy we’d rather have.. That tells us Preller knows what he’s doing. What I’m saying is whatever Liberatore got was what he was asking for all along and if the reports of him wanting top 5 pick money were true he’d be going to college. Yeah, but according to you, ranking is everything, so in that case, the Wil Myers trade seemed like a win for the Padres and the James Shields trade would have been a complete bust. What about the other 10 GM’s who passed on him? San Diego Padres 2021 salary cap table, including breakdowns of salaries, bonuses, incentives, cap figures, dead money and more. Maybe, just maybe, they thought that Weathers was the better prospect and they were ok with signing him at slot value . Kershaw is a prime example. L White especially seems to have a pedigree of sorts when draft left handed pitchers out of high school. No player is trying to sign for x amount over slot. Overall, I liked the Edwards pick a lot more than this pick. Or maybe the Padres and other teams saw something they didn’t like in Liberatore’s workout. So if what you were saying were true then Liberatore would’ve had a higher signing bonus than projected because he was picked lower than he was ranked, but that didn’t happen, Okay so here’s what you’re saying. Still, maybe they saw something in him that Liberatore lacked. His fastball sat in the low nineties this past spring, clocking in at up to 95 MPH on a few occasions. Draft #9 got payed $600,000 less than expected. Reggie Preciado, 16, the top 2019 prospect from Panama signed with the San Diego Padres for $1.3 million on July 2. It helps. This is the second time in three years that Preller has passed on the best player available to take a guy who would supposedly sign for cheaper and then gave his guy a bigger signing bonus than the guy he passed on got. Join Facebook to connect with Ryan Weathers and others you may know. He had all the leverage.” The Alex Smith Story is a Modern NFL TRAGEDY - Duration: 18:34. Now they can officially begin assessing where Ryan Weathers fits in. They must’ve just liked something better about Weathers. Weathers could have been a safer bet, but based on scouts Liberatore had much more potential. But it was my impression that he was going to and that was why they took him because he clearly wasn’t the best player available. Obviously no one can say for sure tho. PS: Weathers got full slot-value. you think Preller and his staff didn’t spend months going over all the possibilities? How do you think these baseball writers come up with these reports? I really couldn’t tell you..I mean, you do have to consider Liberator was ultimately selected by the Rays with the 16th pick, which carried roughly a 3.6 mil slot bonus…Although, even with that being said, Liberatore didn’t even sign for the full amount, I don’t believe. I mean, isn’t it possible that Liberatore and his reps, in meetings with teams pre-draft, told the Padres not to draft him or he’d just go to college; maybe for some reason he doesn’t want to play for SD and some of the other teams who passed on him. Who give AF? Preller is genius can’t you tell by his trades and free agent signings. Maybe didn’t want to get lost in the wave of prospects or maybe he really likes Tampa’s system or whatever. …. They already have Edwards re re Somehow, I get the feeling that Weathers won’t be another Mike Soroka situation. Far above slot for that matter. Quote this scout or that. Not just one. Column: Padres must chase down pitching, again, Club needs a dependable, front-line starter with Mike Clevinger sidelined, Column: MLB seems likely to lend Padres, others a big hand with expanded postseason. Do you realize that Tatis was a complete unknown who hadn’t even made his stateside debut and appeared on ZERO top 100 prospect lists when the White Sox traded him? At 6’5” and 230 pounds Wilcox is a potential ace with his high 90s heat and plus slider. As a draft-eligible sophomore, he will command a hefty signing bonus. Let us tell you what will happen. I’m not sure if you’re talking to me or the guy before me, but I know plenty about sports, and I also know that your response has nothing to do with what I said. I trust the teams professional scouts that actually go out there and scout the players for months and even get to meet up with them instead of someone a bunch of baseball writers who have never seen any of the prospects play in person. How can everyone miss Preller’s master plan? Their system counts three southpaws on MLB.comâs top-100 list. I’m saying if you are projected to go lower but get picked in the top 10, choosing to go to college over signing is at best greedy and at worst reckless. Abbreviations: jas (January Secondary), jar (January regular), jus (June secondary), s (supplemental). Doesn’t save the Padres any money for Edwards. The 18-year-old Weathers, the seventh overall pick in last monthâs draft, on Sunday agreed to sign for the recommended bonus â $5.23 million â a source confirmed for the Union-Tribune. You may occasionally receive promotional content from the San Diego Union-Tribune. The whole “he’s a great athlete, he won a basketball state championship” is watered significantly when you realize Tennessee isn’t a basketball hot bed. It sounds really good on paper, but that just shows you how unpredictable baseball is. According to MLB Pipeline's Jim Callis, Weathers' signing bonus is worth $5,226,500. He uses all three offerings to his advantage even though he lacks a true out pitch. I may be mistaken, but didn’t Liberatore check off those boxes too..? 2019. No one said Liberatore is a slam dunk All Star Einstein. Right on the money Priggs. If football wasn’t in the picture, he would’ve been ranked much, much higher. Lots of variables with HS seniors. He has all the leverage obviously as a HS senior. Bashing Preller because you are “guessing” one kid will be better than another. But they went off script for many by selecting Ryan Weathers.. Weathers, like 2016 first-rounder Cal Quantrill, is a second-generation pitcher, and has been on scouting radar throughout his high school career.He emerged as a potential first-round option last summer … Weathers also has a fair amount of pedigree; his father is Dave Weathers, who enjoyed a major-league career spanning a remarkable 19 seasons. Now, it faces a backlash, State officials are considering the kind of stay-at-home order that helped curb the virusâ spread in the spring. 100) are all ranked among MLB.comâs top-100 prospects in the game, and Weathers, the son of a veteran of 19 major league seasons, certainly has the pedigree and stuff to join them. The White Sox giving up an unknown Dominican League player and a failed pitching prospect for an innings eater who had a 3.06 ERA prior to his last start with the Padres also sounded good on paper. He could prove us all wrong, but there’s a chance he might end up becoming a bullpen piece or Wade Leblanc 2.0. It’s generally believed that Weathers has a high floor for a high school selection. Many teams passed on Liberatore…..not just SD. If Liberatore was drafted earlier he would’ve had a bigger signing bonus. He was the last one of the top 10 rounds Hogwash, since when is the MLBTR comment section supposed to be filled with reason, patience, and an idea that makes perfect sense.. MLB Draft:Loretto's Ryan Weathers selected seventh by San Diego Padres. Only time will tell though! Weathers committed to Vanderbilt University to play college baseball. Next: vs. No. You guys who think you already know who will be the better Major League pitcher 4 years from now crack me up. 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Weathers has been in ML clubhouses. 44) and Logan Allen (No. Sure the guy has a great pedigree, but he doesn’t even have a true “out” pitch. The kid was drafter 16th overall when he was ranked #4, so obviously there were 15 other teams with professional scouts that saw somebody else stand out more than him. So if I understand correctly, you are saying that Preller was right and everyone else was wrong? Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. ... an opportunity Weathers passed on to accept a $5,226,500 signing bonus from the Padres. So let’s put it this way, the Padres gave up the top #95 prospect in all of baseball and pitching prospect that didn’t even make it into the Padres top 20 in 2014 for the 2013 AL rookie of the year. If he does as well as his dad, it was a good choice. Eric Longerhagenflagensmagen? A free inside look at Ryan, LLC bonus trends based on 915 bonuses wages for 233 jobs at Ryan, LLC. The point is you can argue “today” all you want. Nice try bro but if what you are saying was the case with Liberatore he would have signed for above slot. Register Pitching; Year Age AgeDif Tm Lg Lev Aff W L W-L% ERA RA9 G GS GF CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF WHIP H9 HR9 BB9 SO9 SO/W; 2018: 18: 2 Teams: 2 Lgs: Rk-A: SDP: 0: 3.000: 3.44 But neither is Weathers. 7 overall in last year's draft, some thought that he would have to settle for an under-slot signing bonus. Weathers, who will be introduced Monday morning at Petco Park, went 10-0 with a 0.09 ERA and 148 strikeouts in 76 innings at Tennesseeâs Loretto High School, following MacKenzie Gore â last yearâs first-rounder â as the Gatorade National Baseball High School Player of the Year. 11 Georgia prepares for its final home game of 2020 against Vanderbilt. 7 pick. Ryan Weathers, a member of Vanderbilt’s 2018 signing class, was named the Gatorade National Baseball Player of the Year on Thursday. Get our free Padres Daily newsletter, free to your inbox every day of the season. You have to give hindsight scouting to both or neither. San Diegan Barry Zito is on the ballot for the first time, but could a lack of no-doubt Hall of Fame candidates inch Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens closer to the Baseball Hall of Fame? Not a decent pick considering Brady Singer, Matt Liberatore and Carter Stewart were still on the board and Liberatore signed for cheaper than Weathers. That’s a lie. They get to basically pick their landing spot. It also tells us that maybe they wanted Weathers instead of Liberatore for reasons we aren’t privy too. And as for Weathers, once he was drafted in that slot he probably demanded slot money or he wouldn’t sign either. He is the son of former big league reliever David Weathers. He wouldn’t. I’m not saying they have to do anything.