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I don't know about the 120p limitations but it's not uncommon when makers see these modes as slow-mo features, not full video modes. Thing thing with 4K on consumer cameras is: It's the only way to get high quality video! "Ebrahim, aren't you a dentist?" In another work, G85 takes better 4K video?? But everyone tries it at least once until they realize the file sizes and difficulty to process and share.Only people with specific needs use 4K,and probably all of them come to this site and comment here :). I must admit that I fail to understand the strong focus on 4K. 10 years ago, there were some Professionals I knew still on SD shooting in 4:3 aspect ratio and arguing I was being too Professional shooting HD in 16:9 ratio. I like that crop, it makes my small lenses a bit "longer", Yes @snapa, who doesn't want 'longer'? It makes a fantastic successor the G7 and Panasonic has delivered a well-rounded camera that’s hard to come by, even today. I'm unsure if they'd do it on the RGB "raw" level (I surmise that would have higher video quality) or after creating each RGB pixel.When/if m43 comes out with 8k video, hopefully the sensor is perfectly sized. 8k ? An 11MP 4:3 sensor could feature 1:1 video without any cropping and no noise cost (though it'd capture less detail than a high pixel count sensor that was oversampled). I think the reality here is that smartphones have crushed the lower end of the camera market - not just compact cameras but now entry/mid range ILC's - and manufacturers don't see a return on R&D investment at this end of the market. This year's Formula 1 cars are much faster than my old Toyota. Somehow I feel folks were more thoughtful, in the earlier days of DPReview. That’s capitalism to me. With all the lenses on the market anyone should be able to get the angle they want. Downsampling even in its crudest averaging mode "makes up for" the small native pixels (i.e. 5,0 su 5 stelle 9. Resolution / HDR / Shutter Type / Flash Mode / Flash Adjust. The effective change in focal length might be the same but the Panasonic is cropping from an already comparatively small sensor. VEDERE ANCHE: Recensione Panasonic LUMIX GH5S: una grande fotocamera per video 4K a bassa luminosità. Ozturert I'm a Professional. -4K is the only way to get true 1080p on a bayer sensor-4K allows for cropping, and making pans/scans-4K gives more detail for VFX/Stabilization-4K gives 4x smaller noise structure, makes it much easier to clean with noise reduction software -4K ensures MUCH finer compression, all blocking and huge ugly patches are 4x finer, this was a major step forward from 5DII days ro GH4. Honestly the camera would be pretty much perfect for me without the crop. We're glad you asked. Even Sony, which was first to provide video features such as Log capture seems stuck with 8-bit capture at a time when other brands are providing 10-bit and is still introducing cameras with significant rolling shutter. So they aren't actually shooting themselves in the foot. @ Androole Neither is suitable for high-budget work. And include other features related to video: display type, mic/headphone jacks, rolling shutter, color depth options, hdmi out capabilities, sound quality, codec and bitrate options and actual performance and others. BTW, I reckon what would sell is a camera with exactly 8K 16x9 stills and an on-censor 4-to-1-pixel-averaging readout option producing very "clean" UHD with minimum rolling shutter. Opinioni, caratteristiche tecniche e foto scattate con la Panasonic GX80 / GX85, una fotocamera mirrorless con sensore 4/3 (2.0x) da 16 megapixels prodotta dal 2016. Canon will yet regret the day they drove filmmakers and their amateur users into the arms of Sony, Fujifilm and Panasonic. It's too late to treat it "on the same basis" now, unless you have a time machine. * Under the test conditions specified by Panasonic based on CIPA standard. 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Reading a bit about the "The Hobbit" 48fps controversy and related themes is a good start for added wisdom. It is a bit weird. These capable cameras should be solid and well-built, have both speed and focus for capturing fast action and offer professional-level image quality. Richard, you haven't "reviewed the G95 yet", either. Natural History Museum's Wildlife Photographer of the Year has selected 25 photos for its People's Choice Award. 4K requires lots of space, lots of processing power, and in fact 1080p videos look just good. To show an enlarged view of their nose on Youtube? Synchronization for flash dimming and exposure compensation, Yes (When using DMW-FL200L / FL360L / FL580L (Optional)), TFT LCD monitor with static touch control, Free-angle 3.0-inch (7.5cm) / 3:2 aspect / Wide viewing angle, Brightness, Contrast, Saturation, Red-Green, Blue-Yellow, Level Gauge, Real-time Histogram, Guide Lines (3 patterns), Highlight display (Still image / motion picture), Zebra Pattern (Still image / motion picture), Fn1, Fn2, Fn3, Fn4, Fn5, Fn6, Fn7, Fn8, Fn9, Fn1, Fn2, Fn3, Fn4, Fn5, Fn6, Fn7, Fn8, Fn9, Fn10, Exposure Comp. The rear camera (or cameras) on an iPhone has all the latest bells and whistles, but how do you use them to capture a selfie or record a video of yourself? I would help to add a Table 4K Feature Breakdown between Fuji X-T30 vs Sony A6400 vs Panasonic G95. Streaming features, second audio mini jack audio input, basic multi-camera video editing. 4k is a hype for consumers. ・ The software to edit and playback images on computer is not bundled with DMC-G85. Film wins every time and can be delivered in HD and 4K depending on whether it was 16mms or 35mm. Which is why 4K is important. (This is coming from a m43 user). I guess 10MP is good enough for stills for you too. I'm sure there are some Professionals still on HD. Now try to understand why Panasonic (and others) designers decided to crop the 4K image. View our sample gallery to see how a bit of shift can change a photo or introduce creative effects. @otto k, that's the first time I've seen anyone say reality, necessarily separated from marketer-speak, of what 4K can be for. con la modalità 4K, un corpo macchina resistente alle condizioni atmosferiche difficili e un obiettivo per la massima flessibilità. Panasonic G85 Face Detect in Video & AF Sensitivity Demo. Since you don't have 12MP of RGB pixels but just 12M of R, G or B ones. ozturert I guess you believed 1080p was “a hype for consumers” too. More like upper middle for a crop camera. In testing I had one run for just under two hours. Even 4K photo modes work better on the latter, thanks to the smaller crop. But you won't have the IBIS, which may be important for some people. What Panasonic does right is the cinematic look which I don't see with other brands. After saying all of that, the camera is okay if you want to take decent stills. Other slight things in GH6 I'd like 4K60 HLG 10bit based HEVC internally, 33mpix+ 8K anamorphic support why not. To do this, SILKYPIX Developer Studio is available for download at Ichikawa Soft Laboratory's website using computer connected to the Internet. Used a 5 core chip similar to the one in Galaxy S6 IIRC.That's why I am completely confused to see video crippled cameras in 2019. Has there ever been a time in history when a pre-production camera with a major crop that was already sent to review sites has turned into a camera without a crop upon release? Since its release in late 2019, users have been unable to recalibrate or fine-tune their Apple Pro Display XDR. See, even DPR is saying quite eloquently that it's bad no matter who does it - but of course, for some reason Canon owners need to make everything personal :/. That's a tiny crop from an already very large sensor, and only in one frame-rate. "Noise Performance" is indicated as "low". @Richard Butler ...I guess that comparison table used the manufacturer's prices, because the G85 has been discounted for quite a while now. DPReview TV: Panasonic G95 first impressions review, Panasonic Lumix DC-G95/G90: What you need to know, Panasonic Lumix DC-G95/G90 pre-production sample gallery, Panasonic Lumix DC-G95/G90 features a 20MP sensor, weather-resistant body and built-in V-LogL, Sigma 65mm F2 DG DN Sample Gallery (DPReview TV), Sigma 35mm F2 DG DN Sample Gallery (DPReview TV), Review: Monogram Creative Console - a refinement of our favorite modular editing hardware. 01:05 (31 Oct, 2016) Panasonic G85 Subject Tracking Demo. Pana also offers the widest variety of body styles out there, gotta count for something. This isn't easy, of course. What's worse, this article about cropped video doesn't even mention the fact that A6400 and X-T30 both use this strategy for some video modes (and in case of A6400, the most important mode). Photographer and YouTuber Todd Dominey has shared a video that details the history of Kodak Aerochrome film, a film stock he says has 'an origin story unlike any other.'. (Dual I.S. It is not always obvious who the target audience for a particular camera is, but in the case of the G95, Panasonic has been very clear. With the new Pro Display XDR Calibrator and accompanying firmware update, users can now recalibrate their Pro Display XDR monitors. So it may just be "capitalism done wrong" in this case, depending on how this sells, of course. I would rather consider a used G9 or GH5, or the X-T30 or used X-T3. Immature tech? http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/soft/download/d_pfs99pe.html (For Windows). A crop sensor camera is more attractive than 135 format for a hobbyist in many ways. Earlier this week we published our samples from the new Sigma 65mm F2 DG DN when mounted on a Sony body. I agree it's pretty bad, but I've personally shot paid work on the 1DC, the original A7s, and now shooting all my paid work on a pair of EOS R & M50, all these cameras have similarly bad rolling shutter, and noone ever noticed or commented to me that a pole is bendy. Its almost like its a 4k video camera that people that shoot 4k could use. I'm not going for the G90. It's weather resistant. Helps to make sense of it all. But do you maybe expect more today? What is hlding G9 back is the size I think and weight though. CIPA's latest report for global camera shipments shows the camera industry is gaining pace once again in a year marred by the COVID-19 pandemic atop a market already in decline. All content, design, and layout are Copyright © 1998 - 2020 Digital Photography Review All Rights Reserved. All I can do is promise that the a6400's rolling shutter (or crop and still pretty bad rolling shutter) will be made clear in its review. Now mind you it is possible because my GH5 does it beautifully, but it requires a great deal of DSP. Same thing with the GX9. Touch device users, explore by touch or with swipe gestures. Wait until the camera cools down. @HorshackAnd someone pointed out to me, when reducing 4K footage to 1080p, you get the added benefit of lower noise (and I'm sure better sharpness and detail). M50 has 1.7 crop in 4K. @ astrotripperIt's not really the same thing though. Down scaling 20 mp to 4K is no simple task. The G95 / G90 already has a sensor that's smaller than its APS-C peers, using less than half of it in 4K video mode (area indicated in blue) puts it at a further disadvantage. Wish Panasonic abandon its CDAF ONLY stubborness, It is time to embrace PDAF into mirrorless like others have done. Are you trying to gather some material from actual Photographers, or are you actually starting to pay attention? I switched entirely to 4k and now when I look at the old 1080p files on my retina screen I wish i switched earlier. I still don't understand your objection. The image quality blows away any Canon or Nikon cameras we have tried. The true reason this camera is not very attractive to buy: it's to make the G9 look like a great deal. Matt, from YouTube channel DIY Perks, has shared how he managed to get more from the camera, first through watercooling his R5, then through more conventional means. I'm not too Professional. What’s the best camera for less than $1000? If that is true, I hope Sony wakes up and does a perfect A7000 or A7Siii with flip to the side display, 4K60 un-cropped unlimited, dual SD, large Z battery, perfect G9-class IBIS and perfect PDAF. Better if the camera can record direct good quality FHD codecs. SD Memory Card, SDHC Memory Card, SDXC Memory Card, (Compatible with UHS-I / UHS-II UHS Speed Class 3 standard SDHC / SDXC Memory Cards), RAW, RAW+Fine, RAW+Standard, Fine, Standard, MPO+Fine / MPO+Standard (with 3D lens in Micro Four Thirds system standard), Continuous recordable time (Motion picture), AVCHD [FHD/60i]: Approx. A plus for crop is the telephoto increase.I will not be buying this camera because I don’t want that kit lens. I'm not sure how you'll do it without cutting off your feet but it was your idea. Auto*, Auto/Red-eye Reduction*, Forced On, Forced On/Red-eye Reduction, Slow Sync., Slow Sync./Red-eye Reduction, Forced Off * For iA, iA+ only. The 24mm F3.5, 35mm F2 and 65mm F2 DG DN share similar designs and have weather-sealed metal bodies. What do you mean? I don't understand why people have so much trouble with the idea. @s1oth1ovechunk According to the specs it's physical stablisation (sensor shift) hence my question why didn't they make the readout crop area exactly 3840X2160Interpolating 3840x2160 from something only slightly larger like 4100x2300 seems a recipe for artefacts (with little other gains) compared with a clean 1:1. The Canon R5 has many noteworthy features, not the least of which is 8K video recording. Far superior how? The 35mm F2 DG DN is the standard prime in the group of new Sigma I-series lenses. Read this first. It is hard to understand the reason they won’t sell body only. I bet we will now see another article about G95. ... ANDYCINE AC-M1 - Microfono video per fotocamera Canon, Nikon, Sony A7III A6500 A6400 A6300, Panasonic GH5 GH4, smartphone Android con cavo TRS TRS da 3,5 mm. So your talk of crop sensors being vanished in the near future because of 8k is BS. As we continue to test Nikon's update of its multimedia full-framer, we've added more of our findings so far on image quality, dynamic range and video quality. Lacking detail so badly, it clashed badly with the other footage. A lot of camera manufacturers don't prioritize audio, but Panasonic really has with these two cameras. 2 of them take wedding videos for 20+ years. The G85 and G95 appear to use the same number of pixels to create their video. I think my G85 did very well: https://www.thephotographyhobbyist.com/CAMERAGEAR/Panasonic-G85-Gallery/ The G85 is very capable as is and unless someone really needed/wanted some of those features on the G95, they would be better off paying (as of today) $697 for the G85/12-60mm combo. I loved it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui3qje1GmVQ. Personally, I would love to own one even with your over-stated "drawbacks" regarding the 4K crop. - No 4K60- Cropped 4K30- No dual SD- video AF even worse than 2 year old GH5- Battery is tiny. - When using an SDXC memory card: You can continue recording without interruption even if the file size exceeds 96 GB or 3 hours 4 minutes in length, but the motion picture file will be divided and recorded/played back separately.

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